Join for FREE | Take the Tour Lost Password?

deviantART

 

deviantart policy - why it needs to be fixed

Journal Entry: Thu Sep 18, 2008, 10:46 AM
  • Mood: Wow!
  • Listening to: oc remix - castle of tears
  • Playing: Izuna
  • Eating: Food
  • Drinking: Diet Pepsi




More and more, I find deviantART staff getting stupider and stupider. It makes me question whether or not they even bother to look at deviations that are marked as "inappropriate" or if they just have a quick select where they are shown only the title of the deviation and the artist, and they then select everything and just hit "remove".

It started months ago when deviantART decided that my most popular and one of my oldest deviations, [link] , was actually violating some form of a copyright. I got DA staff to put it back, but it lost all of its favs. Thousands of favs were lost from that crap. For the unaware, the wallpaper I linked uses artwork created by a friend of mine, *funkyalien. He gave me his permission to use his art and even provided me with a high quality, white background version.

Shortly after this, a number of "removals" hit friends of mine, in particular =shadowoflight01 and =angelskully. I will admit, one of =shadowoflight01's was bad and shouldn't have been on DA, so she deserved that. However, she had another one removed on the grounds of sexual content which, quite frankly, I see nothing wrong with. Here is a copy of it found on HentaiFoundry (Note, HentaiFoundry itself is NSFW): [link]

As for the piece done by =angelskully, it was a Sasuke/Sakura piece, one that I felt was done in good taste and again had nothing wrong with it. It was just Sasuke sitting chest deep in a hot spring with a towel on his head, while Sakura came up from behind him and wrapped her arms around him. There is no sexuality in it, there is no showing of naughty bits. It was just... removed. Here is a resubmit she sent in of it, in case it stays up: [link]

And it happens everywhere. I know it does. People get their stuff removed all the time because of this reason, stuff that has no reason to be removed. Why do they remove it, though? It's because of how their policy works. Basically, if a picture uses characters that are underage or that are from something designed for people underage and has sexual content in it, it's not allowed. They even define what they consider as "sexual content", which you can find here: FAQ #565: You prohibit the submission of 'pornographic imagery'; what do you consider this to be?

However, they either don't follow it themselves, or they don't properly review content that is being deemed unfit for deviantART.

What's even more stupid about the situation is that there is a LOT of content on deviantART that does far worse than some things I've seen drawn, yet it remains on deviantART. What is this stuff you ask? A lot of artistic nude photos. While according to the sexual content policy they does not break anything, and while they do use models over 18, some of them are unfit to be considered art.

I'm now going to bring up the most blatent example of the artistic nude problem that I can find on deviantART:

`Pelicanh (And I so know that this guy might actually see this journal thanks to his making a comment in Angel's journal, but I consider that a good thing.)

Now, I will admit right now that he has a good deal of photos that are fine. However, the problem lies in a single type of photo he takes, which he submits quite often: The close-up of a woman's vagoo (Thank you Least I Could Do for that word). This isn't something that has only happened once or twice. If you go through his gallery you will find several of these pictures strewn about. In the first 360 deviations (upon the time of writing this) I found 13 cases of this problem. I also found, while performing this check, a photo of lactating breasts that I couldn't believe is even allowed on DA.

And obviously, this problem gets worse as you go in.

What do you think DA staff did about this? That's right, they made him a Senior Member. Instead of removing a single thing that caused a problem, they made him something between a regular member and a mod itself. They put him in a position that basically said "Yea, we're just gonna let you submit what you want. You won't get in trouble for it." What the hell?

And I know there are other artistic nude photographers out there that do this, and it's sickening. There's no form of "art" coming out of these photos, it's just cheap pornography!

Something needs to give. Something needs to change. It's about time that deviantART staff starts reviewing stuff properly, stops removing deviations which are perfectly fine, and starts to look into their own policies and change things, because the way it is now is no damn good. Enough is enough!

- Skye


I am currently looking for an artist who would be willing to do some design artwork for the Hope Everlasting story, preferably at a cheap price or even free of charge just so I can get the main cast properly done in artwork. This is all character design artwork and NO reference art for anything of these characters exists, save for either tiny sprites or spliced sprites. This means there is a lot of creative freedom on how the characters are designed.

Currently, the characters I need drawn up are:

- Gary Windstrom
- Kiana Corwin
- Kyle Corwin
- Choas
- Clare Nighsworn

If anyone is interested, give me a shout.

Devious Comments

love 1 1 joy 0 0 wow 1 1 mad 1 1 sad 0 0 fear 0 0 neutral 0 0
:iconi-love-meow:
awwwwwwwwwh is diddums getting angry..
bit serioudly i totally agree...and i CAN NOT BELIEVE THEY DELETED YOUR YUNA PEICE THAT WAS YOU CLAIM TO FAME zomg.....
*says in irish accent:bloody bastards*

--
"OH lady luck,dont fail me now..."-Cid highwind

WWJD- WHAT WOULD JUDAS DO ?
:iconskye-mccloud:
I'm not concerned as much for my wallpaper as I am for the works of my friends. :P

--
"You think you've beaten me? You think you've won?! I think you need to learn who you're facing!'

- Leon Maximus
:iconi-love-meow:
merry ramadan!

--
"OH lady luck,dont fail me now..."-Cid highwind

WWJD- WHAT WOULD JUDAS DO ?
:iconyivae:
In the journal of Angelskully One person has responded so nice by saying this:

"there is a REALLY easy answer to this issue. It is DA's site, not YOURS. If you do not like their rules and decisions .... LEAVE! Easy huh?"


I replied in the same way in primary schools : | ...

If outside a shop says "here are selling cakes" me by looking for cakes
If the shop selling sandwiches can not respond to me "if you want the cakes EXIT"

Bah...for example..one day I report this imagine [link]
this is just one example on the thousands of images...
Usually not report anything but this image I seemed really exaggerated
But Deviant Art replied that it was ok...
for me and other 193 people who reported in the same day... : / ...
Ok maybe only my stupid Opinion ^-^!
But really....I dont understand why this image [link] has been deleted...
The rules should not be rules for everyone?
Oh .... ok .... are under the age to have sex!
Great xD!!!
But Please....Between this [link] And This [link] (Both very beautiful)
where is the difference?

is too simple Reply:
"If you don't like their rules and decisions....LEAVE"

Forgive my bad english
I tried to explain what I think :heart:


--
-if my comments are short it's because my English sucks and I can not find words to express myself ;; sorry
-Please correct my English, and help me to improve myself >w<
- i love my sisters ;; -
-i Love priscit ( ;; )-§( ;; )§-
:iconskye-mccloud:
How does that contribute to the discussion?

--
"You think you've beaten me? You think you've won?! I think you need to learn who you're facing!'

- Leon Maximus
:iconskye-mccloud:
Aye, that is an argument I've heard before, but quite frankly there comes a point where the site itself needs a change too. That point is when the following situation occurs:

Deviation A and Deviation B are submitted by two different people. A is submitted by a well known, very popular person. B is submitted by someone not as well known. A is a submission that borderlines, if not crosses, the line that is the end of "safe submissions." In other words, it should probably be removed. B is something that, while not anywhere near the end of the limits of a safe submission, still contains more mature content. B is then removed on the premise that it violates policy and is sexual content, while A is left alone despite the fact that A is reported by many people, while B is reported by one person.

--
"You think you've beaten me? You think you've won?! I think you need to learn who you're facing!'

- Leon Maximus
:iconmoonlitinuyasha1985:
Ugh, I'm so sick & tired of dA deleting all my fav artists art!:angered: IT'S AN OUTRAGE!:rage: I just wish they'd pull their head outta their asses and stop doing this shit!

--
Writing fanfictions is what I do best.:)
I LOVE SasuSaku & NaruSaku!:love:
NaruSaku is love!:glomp:
SasuSaku is smex!:flirty:
NaruHina is an innocent romance!:date:
InuKag is a beautiful romance!:rose:
MiroSan is both love & smex!:cuddle:
:iconskye-mccloud:
You're not the only one.

--
"You think you've beaten me? You think you've won?! I think you need to learn who you're facing!'

- Leon Maximus
:iconmoonlitinuyasha1985:
I know.

--
Writing fanfictions is what I do best.:)
I LOVE SasuSaku & NaruSaku!:love:
NaruSaku is love!:glomp:
SasuSaku is smex!:flirty:
NaruHina is an innocent romance!:date:
InuKag is a beautiful romance!:rose:
MiroSan is both love & smex!:cuddle:
:iconaquaticmistress92:
OMG! I'm watching one of the people you named having art deleted for no good reason!

Jeez DA is retarded!

--
But I want to kill him...


Xehralc~V

Shoutboard

Stamps



Awesome Star of Destiny Art



Got some S.O.D. art that's not here? Tell me so I can add it! :D

Did you know about #pkmngds yet? 

65%
11 deviants said No
18%
3 deviants said FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
12%
2 deviants said Yes
6%
1 deviant said I already joined!

Shoutbox

=shadowoflight01:iconshadowoflight01:
Dork! :glomp:
Sun Feb 22, 2009, 2:20 AM
~I-LOVE-MEOW:iconI-LOVE-MEOW:
ohh look at me my name is skye
Sun Feb 1, 2009, 12:23 PM
~abaddon13:iconabaddon13:
Random!! Wahaha~
Mon Jan 26, 2009, 10:30 PM
=shadowoflight01:iconshadowoflight01:
:dance:
Mon Jan 26, 2009, 2:50 AM
=Maksn:iconMaksn:
lolz at rocks
Tue Nov 25, 2008, 12:35 AM
=Skye-McCloud:iconSkye-McCloud:
Oh, there will be one. As soon as I can afford it.
Fri Nov 21, 2008, 9:42 PM
~abaddon13:iconabaddon13:
looking forward to your next contest... XD If ever~
Tue Nov 18, 2008, 4:47 AM
=F-AYN-T:iconF-AYN-T:
:w00t!:
Sun Nov 16, 2008, 10:51 PM
~aquaticmistress92:iconaquaticmistress92:
:D
Sun Oct 12, 2008, 8:53 PM
~I-LOVE-MEOW:iconI-LOVE-MEOW:
wahey.....how the hell is that offensive...ive said that to a jewish girl and even she didnt mind!
Sat Oct 11, 2008, 1:03 AM
=Skye-McCloud:iconSkye-McCloud:
That is offensive! I have half a mind to report you!
Sat Oct 11, 2008, 12:36 AM
~I-LOVE-MEOW:iconI-LOVE-MEOW:
jew bag!
Sat Oct 4, 2008, 4:29 AM
=Skye-McCloud:iconSkye-McCloud:
The jebus?! Someone used it again!
Tue Aug 12, 2008, 10:29 PM
!NOoneLC:iconNOoneLC:
LETS START AN RIOT!!!
Mon Aug 11, 2008, 8:56 PM
~ky0ki:iconky0ki:
Ah... um... Hi!
Sat Oct 22, 2005, 11:35 AM
~censorfish:iconcensorfish:
:poke:
Wed Jun 22, 2005, 12:48 AM
~ky0ki:iconky0ki:
SPAM'D
Wed Jun 1, 2005, 5:53 PM
=Skye-McCloud:iconSkye-McCloud:
We need some more shouts here, lol
Thu Apr 28, 2005, 6:07 PM
=shadowoflight01:iconshadowoflight01:
lol! I needs the monies ><
Thu Apr 21, 2005, 2:26 AM
=Skye-McCloud:iconSkye-McCloud:
Bad Xen, no shameless advertising! :D ^_^
Mon Apr 18, 2005, 11:06 AM

Forum

Site Map